Joanne Justis is one of the world’s experts on Chaldean numerology and an inspirational author.
The International Association of Numerologists has only two recognised Chaldean Master Numerologists in their records and Joanne is one of them. In Pure Spirit has been lucky enough to secure a short interview with Joanne and we hope you enjoy.
How important is numerology in your life? Can you give us an example of numerology from your day to day living?
Chaldean Numerology is very important in our lives but most people are unaware that it even exists or the magical powers of gleaning information from the secrets that lay hidden within a name and birthdate—because it was not a part of our educational system. It’s virtually impossible to live in this world without using numbers in everything we do. Numbers are a part of our existence and define our lives—even though most people are not aware of their importance or that we use numbers consciously or unconsciously.
An example of usage would be calculating a day with the best possible vibrational patterns for travel, surgeries, weddings etc. Knowing what your vibrational patterns are (positive or negative) will assist you in making the decision to commit for that particular day or to reschedule another day when the vibrational patterns are more favorable to you.
Do you have a favorite version of numerology? Why does it stand out above the others?
The only version of Numerology that I use is known as Chaldean which is the only accurate system of numbers dating back to 4004 BCE. This system is based on sound and phonics versus the other system that is based on the alphabet and number assignment which destroy the vibrational patterns of naming. Only a few experts in the world know this, even western numerologists will tell you that they know their system lacks something but they don’t know what that something is.
What’s a common numerology mistake that you see less experienced numerologists make?
The most common mistake made by less experienced numerologists is that they don’t know the rules of the game that are quite complex or even if they are using the right system of numbers to begin with. For example, most people when calculating a business name will include Inc. LLC, Corporation etc. which is a part of the name but does not apply when calculating the name. This is a financial structure only so it carries no weight in selecting the name but will indeed alter the correct vibrational pattern if calculated.
The same thing holds true for a personal name. Many people leave out the middle name or add Jr., Sr. which then provides the wrong result. Not following the rules will provide inaccurate information. Another mistake numerologists make is that they don’t do their research and assume articles written on numerology are valid. The books that have been published and information residing on the Internet are mostly all inaccurate but the average person would not know the difference between what is accurate and what is not.
What should people keep in mind once they start to explore numerology?
Anyone interested in learning the art of Numerology should know that it takes time to learn the rules and system regardless of whatever system they choose. It’s really important when calculating the formulas that the calculations be checked and rechecked again for accuracy. It’s very easy to make a mistake when doing math if you are not concentrating on what you are doing.
What’s your favourite story where numerology has been able to really help someone through dark times?
A woman wanted a divorce from her husband of 25 years because he was not aggressive nor was he taking the lead in making decisions leaving them all up to her which she grew tired of. She met a man who was aggressive and exciting and decided to upgrade so she thought she would be getting a better partner. After generating their blueprints/charts, she learned that her husband had no aggressive numbers in his chart but realized he was a great provider/caregiver/lover who gave her all the freedom she wanted to run the household. In contrast, this woman had all of the aggressive numbers so in essence, she had been beating this man up all this time for something he had no control over. When I suggested that the new man might not be as great a lover and maybe even dominating and controlling, she had to take a look at her current relationship. After the reading/consultation which helped her to intellectually understand herself and her husband’s behavior patterns, she realized now that she had the perfect partner who was never going to be aggressive. When she accepted that fact that she could not change her husband’s traits, the decision to divorce was no longer a consideration.
Can you help us understand the role the number 9 plays in Chaldean numerology? Why don’t we see it very often?
Chaldean Numerology is based on the Chaldean Alphabet which assigns only “eight” root numbers (numerical values) to the sound-syllables (letters) of their alphabet. The Number “9” was considered to be sacred in and of itself. It was sacred not only because it was symbolic of the highest level of spiritual attainment, but also because it’s level of creative energy was higher than all numbers. Therefore the Number “9” could never be assigned to represent a single “letter” (sound-syllables). As a consequence, the Number 9 is not included in the number assignment of the letters (sound-syllables) of the Chaldean Alphabet.
Although we don’t use the Number 9 in the formula calculation, that number can certainly appear anywhere in a blueprint as a result of the calculation equaling a Number “9”.
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Luis Goncalves (PT) says
The so-called "Chaldean" Numerology is not an ancient system of numerology but a (very) modern system which is inspired on the ancient qabalistic method of the "Aiq Bekar" (AIQ BKR) according to which the letters of the *HEBREW* alphabet correspond to the numbers from 1 to 9. So basically the "Chaldean" Numerology is an attempt to make our own alphabet fit into this originally hebrew system of Numerology. Also, the Aiq Bekar is nothing more than a hebrew version of the Pythagorian Numerology. And finally, the number 9 was never considered to be specially relevant in the Hebrew Aiq Bekar, and it was used like any other number.
In this system, the correlation between letters and numbers was made in the following way (using the names of the hebrew letters):
1= Aleph, Yod, Qoph
2= Beth, Kaph, Resh
3= Gimel, Lamed, Shin
4= Daleth, Mem, Tau
5= Heh, Nun
6= Vau, Samech
7= Zayin, Ayin
8= Cheth, Peh
9= Teth, Tzaddi
So as you can see, the number 9 was used, just like the numbers from 1 to 8. The only reason why 9 isn't used in the modern pseudo-chaldean numerology is that the hebrew letters which corresponded to the number 9 didn't originate any letter in our alphabet. For instance, the letter Teth (between CHETH / greek Eta / latin "H", and YOD / greek Iota / latin "I" and "J") doesn't exist in our alphabet. Likewise, the letter Tzaddi (between PEH / greek Pi / latin "P", and QOPH / obsolete greek Qoppa / latin "Q") didn't survive into our alphabet. So this is the reason why 9 isn't used in the modern "Chaldean" Numerology. It has nothing to do with special "powers" of the number 9, nor even to any supposed "fear" of it from the "Chaldeans".
Anyway… I've been making some investigations on alphabetical genealogy, and here's the system I believe respects more the Aiq Bekar, and the connections between the hebrew/phoenician letters and the latin letters:
1= A, I, J, Q.
2= B, K, R.
3= C, G, L, S.
4= D, M, T.
5= E, N.
6= F*, U*, V*, W*, X**, Y*.
7= O, Z.
8= H, P.
* The hebrew letter Vau (=6) originated the obsolete greek letter Vau/Digamma (similar in shape to our "F"), and it is quite possible that it was the letter that inspired the creation of the greek letter Ypsilon (Y), the etruscan "U", and the latin "U"/"V". From U/V was created, much later, the letter W.
** The hebrew letter Samech (=6) originated the greek letter Xi (between Nu/N and Omikron/O) which, however, didn't survive into our modern latin alphabet. However, it is quite possible that the greek letter Chi (between Phi and Psi) which originated our "X", was taken from it. In fact, in some old italic alphabets, the shapes of these two distinct letters were very similar, perhaps showing a common origin.
Regarding the values of the letters F, H, X, Y in the modern pseudo-chaldean numerology, there isn't any logic in:
-> giving "F" the value 8, since it derives (as shown) from the hebrew Vau (=6); this correspondence is partially understandable, however, since in hebrew the letter Peh can be read as either "P" or "F", but even then there isn't any relation between Peh/Pi/P (=8) and F;
-> giving "H" the value 5, since it has no relation at all to either Heh or Nun. The latin letter corresponding to hebrew Heh is "E", not "H". H was derived from Cheth (=8);
-> giving "X" the value 5 (no comment!);
-> giving "Y" the value 1, since it has no relation at all to the hebrew letter Yod. The latin letters corresponding to Yod are "I" (called "Iota" in greek) and "J" (called "Jot" or "Jota" in several languages).
So, here is again my proposal of the Genealogical System of Numerology (corrected "Chaldean" system):
1= A, I, J, Q.
2= B, K, R.
3= C, G, L, S.
4= D, M, T.
5= E, N.
6= F, U, V, W, X, Y.
7= O, Z.
8= H, P.
All the best,
can you give us some chronology here?. You state that Chaldean Numerology is a modern system. When was it invented and by whom? You state Aiq Bekar is ancient. What evidence is there for this view ?
I am interested in numerology but am often nonplussed by claims of its ancient origins. As far I can determine it is no older than the books of Chiero or L Dow-Baliett (19th Century).
Luís Gonçalves says
Sorry for the (long) absence. Here's the replies to your questions:
«You state that Chaldean Numerology is a modern system. When was it invented and by whom?»
That's a good question. Unfortunately I haven't yet been able to trace the origin of "Chaldean" Numerology to our days, but I presume it was someone who had contact with the Jewish Qabalah and then, perhaps, thought it would be "fun" to adapt an originally hebrew numerological system to our modern latin alphabet – greatly failing in doing that, as exposed earlier. And of course, this is only a supposition.
«You state Aiq Bekar is ancient. What evidence is there for this view ?»
If you happen to study Qabalah, you'll know that Aiq Bekar is ancient. It isn't "thousands of years" old (like the pseudo-Chaldean is said to have – with no proofs shown), but it's several centuries old. At least as old as the Hebrew people decided to attribute numbers to their 22-lettered alphabet.
«I am interested in numerology but am often nonplussed by claims of its ancient origins.»
And so am I. What I tried to show in my last message was precisely that. Maybe some systems that are said to be "thousands of years" old, in fact only have some decades. Finally, regarding those 19th century sources, the Qabalah is much older than that, and so is Gematria (jewish numerology).
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debbie edwards says
Is numerology for real or is it a creative money-making scheme?
Do alpha phonations or numerals vibrate or 'have vibrations' or affect the universe in which they were discovered? Are the vibrations based on sound frequencies?
I look forward to your response.
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